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<p>10 revisions: Import of dump file from approx July 2014</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Subshine: Underwater programmable illumination system ==<br /> <br /> This is my idea page for the Subshine system. <br /> <br /> Who is me? <br /> <br /> Clive<br /> <br /> What is subshine? <br /> <br /> A collection of multicolored lights floating a few feet below the surface of the water. They can be arranged any way, but probably a grid, and they can be addressed via a control box, midi, beat detector, ipad, etc. <br /> <br /> At night, it will make the water around the flotilla glow any color. <br /> <br /> <br /> == Technical details ==<br /> <br /> Subshine will be composed of modules<br /> Each module will have between 3-4 high brightness LEDs. Either 10 watt each or 100 watt each. Red Blue Green or Red Blue Green White, or possibly RGB UV. <br /> <br /> 10 watt: <br /> <br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUGNtYKasU<br /> <br /> 100 watt: <br /> http://www.youtube.com/user/LedFoxShop#p/a/u/1/jCf0rgkqOQA<br /> <br /> Another option:<br /> <br /> http://www.amazon.com/MOTORCYCLE-BRIGHT-ACCENT-FLEXIBLE-Aquarium/dp/B002SG9J6K/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1308789640&amp;sr=8-15<br /> <br /> They're cheap and already waterproof. It would greatly simplify the project. But the controls would have to be above water. -- [[User:Adam|Adam]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Each module will be sealed to to IP68 standards, good for continuous immersion. Each module will contain the LED devices themselves, driver electronics and control electronics. The housings will be made out of Aluminum with small heat dissipation fins. They will look pretty retro. <br /> <br /> - I'd like to note that things don't really store or dissipate heat the same when they're immersed in water. -[[User:Christie|Christie]]<br /> <br /> Modules will be balanced to be just slightly over neutrally buoyant. <br /> <br /> - I'm assuming you're planning on having some sort of fixed rail to keep them all at a relatively fixed depth, and not rise to the surface? -[[User:Christie|Christie]] <br /> <br /> <br /> Control.. not sure how to handle this yet. BlinkMs are pretty close to what we need: <br /> http://thingm.com/products/blinkm<br /> <br /> so I might just copy the design (I know the guy, he is one of the founders of CrashSpace) <br /> <br /> What we used to control lights on [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZV7xeeXpqQ Syzygryd] involved a [http://www.celestialaudio.com/dmx_led/index.html DMX controller], which can easily be sequenced if you have the hardware to work with it. -[[User:Christie|Christie]]<br /> <br /> Hell, might be cheap enough to give each guy an IP address.<br /> <br /> Can you get an arduino shield for that? -[[User:Christie|Christie]]<br /> <br /> == What I can do ==<br /> <br /> Overall systems design <br /> <br /> Manufacturing<br /> <br /> Electronics design<br /> <br /> basic layout <br /> <br /> simple control code<br /> <br /> <br /> == What I need help with ==<br /> <br /> PCB layout<br /> <br /> Higher level control software, IE ipad etc. <br /> <br /> Deep embedded programming <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Potential Problems ==<br /> -Cost. <br /> LEDS cost money. IP68 connectors cost money<br /> <br /> -Power:<br /> These things are going to suck a LOT of power. <br /> <br /> Let's say we have 100 100 watt LEDS<br /> If they are all firing at once, we can easily draw 300 amps. <br /> <br /> 300 amps. <br /> <br /> How much are marine batteries rated for? <br /> <br /> they can drop 1000 amps out but.. they are rated for like 68 AH<br /> <br /> Meaning one battery would die in 15 minutes. And for hundred watts, we need 36v so.. that would be three in series <br /> <br /> Now, if we use 10 watt LEDS, we can run it for 45 minutes off of one battery <br /> So for 10 watt LEDS, a battery farm of about a dozen or so 12v should do us. <br /> <br /> Now, to charge it.. Crashspace can lend us some solar but they only put out 500 watts or something.. so much to think about<br /> <br /> - An interesting thought about using solar for lighting... you never have it when you need it. Solar during the day and lights at night... you'll need a pile of batteries. Count joules (~amp-hours) not watts. -[[User:Christie|Christie]]<br /> <br /> - Collisions, tangled lines<br /> <br /> If anything is going to be floating just under the surface, there is a real potential for problems with collisions with other craft, and with them getting tangled in various lines. Matt's floating reeds from this year were quickly destroyed because of these issues. -- [[User:Adam|Adam]]</div>

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